did you really mean to call barack obama, the president of the united states, lazy? >> yes. i think it -- i think you saw him admit it the night before when he delivered the pizzas. he said, they're making me do this work. he didn't want to prepare for this debate. he's lazy and disengaged. >> wow. that was former new hampshire governor john sununu with his take on the debate. on the one hand there was a sense of a desire to see more fire from president obama on that day but the fact that the language on thursday was we're going to be so far, you know, gone that we'll call the president a lazy delivery. pizza delivery guy, the black president, a lazy pizza delivery guy. this is important when we talk about george will's piece. how many american presidents have we called lazy? george bush took more vacations, i think than any president in modern times. nobody called him lazy. and that's such a stereotype for black people, my hackles went way up. >> my colleague andrea mitchell was like, maybe you'd like to take that back. maybe you didn't realize what you just said. >> one of